So, with that in mind, here are my rebuttals to some of the most common erroneous comments I see day in and day out that tick me off.
Comment #1: The US defense budget is the source of all the US' fiscal woes. If we dropped it down to pre-Dubya levels, there would be no deficit!
Rebuttal: Come on, people, do some simple freaking math! In 2011, the US had total (on and off budget) expenditures of $3.603 trillion, with total revenue of $2.303 trillion, for a total deficit of $1.3 trillion. Also in 2011, the Department of Defense had a budget of $678 billion. That's for the entire DoD, not just for military action. If we could go back and entirely erase the DoD from existence in 2011, that still leaves an approximately $622 billion deficit for 2011. To check those numbers, here's the official website of the Office of Management and Budget (check tables 1.1 and 4.1).
Comment #2: Iraq and Afghanistan are the main drivers of the US' debt, and are the reason that Dubya spent $X (any random number) trillion while in office!
Rebuttal: This is usually closely tied in with the previous comment. However, it concerns two separate fallacies. The first is that the two wars are the main drivers of the US' debt. Going by costofwar.com, Iraq and Afghanistan have cost a total of $1.347 trillion since they began, with Iraq costing $804 billion and Afghanistan costing $542 billion. Last I checked, the total US debt is at $15.7 trillion. While they accounted for approximately 9% of the total accumulated national debt at the end of Bush's tenure, Bush left office having racked up approximately $4.93 trillion in debt during his eight years in office. (On a side note, to make the accounting period a bit easier to calculate, I'm counting the debt accrued from the February 1st after a President entered office to the January 31st after the new President is sworn in, to give a full calendar month accounting period). The wars account for about 20% of those eight years of debt, so how could they account for the other $4 trillion above and beyond the approximate $1 trillion they had cost through the beginning of 2009?
The second issue is that people seem to generally pull out totally random numbers out of the air when they talk about how much a President has added to the debt. I've seen people say that Bush added the entire $10.6 trillion in debt that was outstanding at the end of his term (never mind all the Presidents who added to the debt ahead of him), that he added $25 trillion in debt, that he added $1 trillion in debt, and everything in between. As soon as he took office in late January 2001, he assumed ownership of the FY01 budget, and like most, if not all, Presidents before him, made immediate changes to the fiscal outlays. Obama did the same thing when he took office in late January 2009. Since the incoming Presidents normally change the budgetary structure for the remaining 9 months of the fiscal year, I consider them to solely own all spending from the time they're sworn in. Getting back on track, those outlandish claims of spending haven't been only aimed at Dubya. I've seen claims that Obama has increased the debt to the current $15.79 trillion from the *total* outstanding debt of $5 trillion after Bush left office, claims that he's only added $2 trillion to the debt, that he hasn't added any, to everything in between. More on this topic later on.
Comment #3: If it wasn't for the interest that we're paying on the debt racked up by Bush, Obama would be running a deficit neutral budget or a surplus.
Rebuttal: Uh, what? Unlike the first two comments, this comment is new to me, just having started cropping up on articles (at least articles I've read) in the past month or so, so I haven't seen enough of them to determine if there's actually a train of (fallacious) logic behind the comments. Anyways, the math doesn't back up this point at all. Total interest expense in 2011 was $454 billion. In 2000, the total interest expense was just under $362 billion. The interest that the US pays on its total outstanding debt is determined by the market rate, so the interest expense can fluctuate on a year to year basis. For example, the interest expense had declined to $318 billion in 2003 from the 2000 rate, despite the total debt having gone up in the years between. The interest expense climbed from there to $451 billion in 2008, then dropped sharply to $383 billion in 2009. While that is a very significant chunk of change, it only accounts for approximately 1/3 of the deficits that were wrung up in 2009, 2010, and 2011. Even adding the annual war cost to this annual interest expense, that accounts for less than half of the deficits each of these last three years.
Comment #4: Bush/Obama has increased the debt or deficit by X amount. He's eeeevil!
Rebuttal: To start with, here's my post from February on the difference between the debt and the deficit, since most folks use the terms interchangeably and don't seem to know the difference between the two. To sum it up, the deficit is the published figure the government produces that is equal to all on-the-books receipts minus all on-the-books expenditures. Unfortunately, the government does a lot of off the books spending, so the published deficit amount never tells the whole story. That's where the debt comes in--it accounts for all on and off budget spending that is in excess of revenue. For example, the government could say it *only* has an annual deficit of $800 billion one year, but actually increases the debt that year by $1.1 trillion, with the remaining $300 billion having been off budget spending.
I'm not gonna go too in depth into this one, due to having gone over this issue in February and also touching on it in the rebuttal to Comment #2 above. Anyways, Bush added $4.93 trillion to the US debt from 2/1/01 to 1/31/09. That comes out to an average of ~$51.4 billion a month in new debt. Since 2/1/09, $5.16 trillion has been added to the debt (as of 6/26/12, per the US Treasury). That comes out an average of ~$129 billion a month in new debt.
Comment #5: There were no jobs added during Bush's tenure and Obama's added millions upon millions more jobs that Bush did.
Rebuttal: Again, where on earth are people getting their figures?
Here's what the Bureau of Labor Statistics says (you can manipulate the data in the Historical News Releases Table A section). I'm listing the unadjusted figures for civilian labor force participation and employment.
February 2001
- Employment: 136.577 million
- Labor force participation rate: 66.8%
- Employment: 140.436 million. On a side note, BLS says they changed the calculation for January 2009, as the figures for December 2008 were 143.350 million.
- LFPR: 65.4%
February 2009
- Employment: 140.105 million
- LFPR: 65.5%
- Employment: 142.727 million
- LFPR: 63.8%
Put all that together, and looking at the peak of employment in both administrations, Bush added far more jobs that Obama has.
Comment #6: All of the jobs that were added during Bush's tenure were in the public sector, while Obama has cut the public sector.
Rebuttal: First, I need to clarify what exactly entails the public sector. The public sector is all government employees, local, state, or federal. Given that the President has zero influence over whether the town of Pawnee, IN hires a new gofer in it Parks and Recreation department, it only makes sense to look at the federal government section of the public sector employees. Going back to the BLS (same place as above, this time Table B), here are the unadjusted numbers for the federal government, excluding military.
February 2001
- Total federal employment: 2.733 million
- Total federal non-USPS employment: 1.855 million
- Total USPS employment: 878,000
- Total federal employment: 2.772 million
- Total federal non-USPS employment: 2.035 million
- Total USPS employment: 736,300
February 2009
- Total federal employment: 2.772 million
- Total federal non-USPS employment: 2.051 million
- Total USPS employment: 721,800
- Total federal employment: 2.823 million
- Total federal non-USPS employment: 2.211 million
- Total USPS employment: 612,200
Comparing the two, the federal government as a whole, and the non-USPS portion of the government in specific, has grown at well more than double the rate it did during Bush's tenure. On a side note, Bush actually had shrunk the size of the federal government through mid 2008, then it began to increase in size, and that increase continues today.